In this post, you will learn exactly how to use fennel seeds for breast enlargement.
In the past ten years, I have tried numerous herbs and products to increase my breast size, and without a single doubt, fennel seeds were some of the best ones I have used, this means that I will show you exactly how to use it, what amounts to take and how to avoid its side effects.
Fennel Seeds for Breast Enhancement and Growth
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In fact, most successful breast enlargement products sold nowadays contain a lot of fennel seeds extracts in them.
It’s not a coincidence, they work very quickly and are extremely powerful when it comes to engorging your breast with liquids and fats.
And these are the most important processes you must-have for your breast to increase in size and volume.
Because, without liquids and fats filling your breasts, your chest will stay flat!
Does Fennel Increase Breast Size?
The short answer is yes.
Fennel seeds may seem tempting to chew on, but I assure you, you won’t get any nutrients from them, or at least an insignificant amount! Try to grind them for maximum benefits.
Unlike fennel tea, which is very weak since it only contains a tiny amount of the organic compounds and phytosterols found in the seeds.
Fennel seeds are potent when it comes to increasing your breast size.
They contain large amounts of phytonutrients and phytoestrogens.
These are hormones like organic compounds that are going to mimic the effects of estrogens on your breasts.
They are going to increase size, volume, while also causing significant lift.
My Before and After Results
Just to give you a small idea of what I’m talking about, when I was just starting with fennel seeds, I had a tiny breast, 32A.
After about five weeks following my formula, which has lots of fennel seeds in it, I reached 34C.
I know that this will not seem like a lot since there are so many posts on the internet that promise you three or four cups a week in terms of growth.
Still, from my experience, they are all liars who are trying to scam you!
I’m going to tell you the truth and nothing but the truth:
Fennel seeds will increase your breast size, but you’ll need to use them the right way like I’m going to show you in this post.
How Does Fennel Help With Breast Enlargement
Fennel seeds contain phytoestrogens and other essential phytosterols.
These compounds are the ones responsible for increasing your breast size and causing more liquids and fat buildup.
These organic compounds simply increase fats and liquids retention in your breasts and thus give your chest a bigger and more voluminous appearance.
What’s more important is that these compounds are very safe for your body and do not cause side effects.
Of course, we will come back to this later on in this post.
But for now, just remember that phytoestrogens are your friends even though they have the word estrogen in them.
They will engorge your breast with liquids and fats which will result in more volume and lift to your chest.
More importantly, they are not going to damage your breast tissues and cause side effects, such as cancer.
In fact, fennel and other phytoestrogen rich plants have been studied extensively and are known to help prevent cancer and cardiovascular issues.
Fennel Seeds Benefits For Breast Growth
Fennel seeds are also extremely beneficial for your breast since they are high in antioxidants.
Which plays a critical role in protecting your skin and keeping it elastic and toned.
More importantly, fennel seeds regulate blood pressure and also help with stress.
Which will reduce stress levels and also decrease signs of wear and fatigue on your skin.
Of course, if you take good care of your skin, your breast is going to look perfect and full of life.
More importantly, your chest is going to be less stressed out and more prone to increase in size and volume rapidly.
This is also the reason why I keep telling my readers that to increase their breast size naturally, they have to take good care of their diets; more importantly, they have to have a relaxed attitude about the whole breast thing!
In other words, you need to avoid stress as much as possible.
I have already talked about this in many of my previous articles.
The fact that most women nowadays are overwhelmed by stress and fatigue.
This does not only affect their skin, but it also makes their breast loose and saggy.
So, a fantastic way for you to help your body increase your breast size while you are taking fennel seeds is to learn to relax and, more importantly, to drink enough water.
As it helps with getting rid of toxins from your body rapidly.
Which is also very important as your breast is going to get engorged with liquids.
So, make sure, next time you go to the bathroom, to notice the following:
Is Your Urine Smelly?
I’m sorry to say this, but you need to notice if your pee is darkish in color.
This simply means that you are not well hydrated.
It may be a sign that your body is under a lot of stress.
So, a bit of friendly advice is to start drinking a minimum of half a liter of water in the morning.
Just after you wake up.
And if you can’t, make sure to at least drink one tall glass of good clean water right after you wake up.
This will ensure that you are adequately hydrated within one or two hours after your sleep ended.
Which is extremely important to reduce stress and to also increase your breast size rapidly.
Remember this:
No matter what you do, if you do not reduce your stress levels, most importantly, if you do not hydrate yourself sufficiently every day, your breast is not going to increase in size.
No matter what you do and no matter what herbs or ingredients you take or use.
How to Use Fennel for Breast Enlargement
To use fennel seeds for breast growth, you need to first understand the right way to get the best out of these powerful seeds.
One of the most important ideas you can get from this post is that fennel seeds are not that powerful on their own!
Fennel Seed Powder For Breast Enlargement
A spice grinder is ideal for making fennel powder, but you need to work on small batches, no more than 2 tablespoons at a time and try to grind for at least 30 seconds.
In other words, if you only use a small amount every single day, without using other breast filling herbs, you are not going to get larger boobs!
In fact, they are only going to make your breast a little firm and a bit engorged with water.
However, if you use fennel seeds the right way, as I’m going to share with you in this post, your breast is guaranteed to increase in size very rapidly.
The most important thing you need to do right now is to understand that fennel seeds on their own will not cause a substantial increase in breast size.
It’s because they do not contain lots of phytoestrogens and plant sterol.
So, what to do?
Well, you can use another potent herb that I have already talked about in many of my previous posts; I’m talking here about fenugreek seeds.
How to Use Fenugreek and Fennel for Breast Enlargement
Fenugreek and fennel seeds are very powerful when it comes to breast enlargement because they are very rich in phytoestrogens.
More importantly, fenugreek seeds contain higher amounts of these potent organic compounds than fennel.
Which is extremely powerful when it comes to increasing your breast size and firmness.
However, the one thing you need to understand right now is that by using fenugreek seeds, you are not going to get powerful breast enlargement.
Since fennel seeds are the ones that increase breast perkiness and an increase in volume.
However, when it comes to fenugreek seeds, they are only responsible for increasing breast size.
What I want to say here is that you need to take advantage of both of these herbs.
On the one hand, you have fennel seeds, which increase breast perkiness and lift.
And on the other hand, you have fenugreek seeds, which increase breast volume and growth.
So, how can you use these two herbs in combination to get amazing breast growth and lift?
Fennel Pills for Breast Enlargement
I know that this goes against many of the things I have already said in my previous posts.
Mainly that I do not like taking pills to increase my breast size, however, when it comes to fennel seeds, most brands are making fantastic products that are very cheap and extremely safe to use.
And, most importantly, are very effective at increasing our breast size.
More importantly, more and more women are prone to use fennel seeds to increase breast milk production during nursing.
This means that this herb is highly available all year long, and it’s also very inexpensive, as I have mentioned some few lines ago.
Fennel Seeds Dosage for Breast Growth
This brings me to a crucial topic: the right fennel dosage for breast enlargement.
You will need a minimum of five fennel pills a day to start noticing considerable improvements in your breast size.
Fennel Seeds Extracts For Breast Enlargement
Fennel capsules are very easy to take if you have an issue taking ground fenugreek seeds, plus they don’t cost a lot and are very effective as well.
I hate to say this, but most women are simply too hesitant to increase their breast size!
In other words, they do not commit themselves fully!
For example, when I was just starting to increase my breast size about ten years ago, I thought that one fennel pill a day would do the trick.
Even worse, I began ignoring my breast enlargement routine, and also forgetting to take my fennel and fenugreek pills daily!
Needless to tell you, this was a terrible decision.
I ended up losing much of my gained breast size very rapidly because I was simply too neglectful!
I don’t want you to do the same; I want you to take a minimum of five fennel pills every single morning.
Fennel Seeds for Male Breast Growth
And if you are a man trying to increase your breast size, you’ll need to double the amount.
In other words, you’ll need to have at least ten fennel pills a day, preferably after a nice meal.
Breakfast is the best since your body will absorb most of the extracts very rapidly.
And if you are like me and want to only use ground fennel seeds to increase your breast size, you should have at least three large teaspoons a day.
So far, I have only talked about fennel seeds and fennel pills.
Which are ground fennel seeds covered with a gelatin layer to make them more convenient to take.
Do Fennel Extracts Work At Increasing your Breast Size?
The answer is yes.
However, they do come with a huge disadvantage: they are extremely concentrated!
In other words, if you are intending to use fennel extracts to increase your breast size, instead of taking five pills a day, I simply want you to take two.
More importantly, I don’t want you to take them on their own!
Because fennel extracts are too potent, they can cause different issues ranging from gas to even upset your stomach!
My advice is: during breakfast, simply take two capsules of a potent fennel extract.
This should do the trick because they will be mixed with food, and will also make their digestion very easy and hopefully without any incidents.
Of course, always ingest fennel seeds or extracts with a lot of water, at least half a cup.
How to Consume Fennel Seeds For Breast Enlargement
Here is what I want you to do every single day when you wake up, a.k.a. my natural breast enlargement routine:
Take two teaspoons of ground fenugreek seeds and swallow them with a large cup of water.
Then, have your breakfast, and here, I want you to focus on a large and healthy breakfast.
Many women forget that to increase their breast size, they need to nourish their breasts and give them “filling” nutrients and “materials”.
And here, I’m talking about the one food category most women simply are too afraid to indulge themselves in!
I’m talking about carbohydrates!
Yep, bread!
If you genuinely want to increase your breast size, you need to overload on carbs .
You need to have lots of bread, lots of pasta and lots of nuts.
So, in the morning, I want you to have either oats or whole wheat bread.
These are the best when it comes to increasing your breast size.
Since they are abundant in energy and are also loaded with essential nutrients for your whole body, not just for your breasts.
BTW, these nutrients will go directly to your breast and engorge them with liquids and fats.
Most importantly, I want you to have a minimum of one handful of walnuts, almonds, or peanuts every single day.
I am also a big peanut butter lover!
I love it a lot, and I enjoy it every single morning with lots of jam and bread.
That’s how I keep my breast larger and amazing looking all day long.
So, when you are done having breakfast, I simply want you to have five pills of fennel pills/capsules.
Your daily fennel intake should be five pills a day, no more and no less.
Indeed, fenugreek and fennel seeds are the best ingredients to use for breast enlargement.
Since they are loaded with phytoestrogens and are going to increase your breast size and firmness very rapidly.
Should this be used lifelong for the sustainment or can be dropped slowly once after the required change is observed?
It should be dropped slowly after you reach nice results.
Hi Sahar my name is Aden I have so far been taken 3 teaspoon of feungreek per day and starting to see an bit of an increase by 1cm or could be because my period is coming up… should I take 2 teaspoons of fennel seeds along with the feungreek so I can grow 2 inches? I want to go from an A cup to a B cup?
Hi, I only have fenugreek capsules. Should I open them up and measure it to ensure that I’m getting the 2 teaspoons of fenugreek I need? Also, I have ground fennel seed and I just wanted to know if the taking the 3 teaspoons of ground fennel seed is the same as taking 5 pills of fennel seed, thank you.
Hello Janet,
You see, the problem with fenugreek capsules is that they’re filled with extracts, which tend to be very powerful!
If you can’t find ground seeds, then you can use them instead.
Ok, fennel dosage is fine.
Taking fuengreek and fennel seeds instead of capsules is good or not or it will help or not in increasing the size of my breast and if they help then please tell me the amount of both the seeds that I can take and how many times I’ve to take and can I take those seeds directly with water and any side effects????
Of course, it’s a powerful seed, you should take about five capsules a day, better yet, two tablespoons ground every morning, this will help you the most.
Hello sahar, you haven’t clear my all doubts about I don’t have capsules that’s why I’m asking you for the direct intake of fuengreek and fennel seeds and 2 tablespoon of each seed with water is good or not and tell me how many times I’ve have to take those seeds and for how many days tell me DIRECT INTAKE OF SEEDS IS GOOD OR NOT..
Hi Sahar, I took your suggestion of taking 2 teaspoons of fenugreek before breakfast which was fine. When I took the 3 teaspoons of fennel, I found that it was too strong and it gave me a headache. What should I lower the dosage to. Thank you
Hiya, do fennel leaves have the same affect? Or is it just the seads?
Please tell me how to take powders
Please what is the correct dosage for the fenugreek powder
Hello sabar, you haven’t clear my all doubts, I don’t have capsules that’s why I’m asking you for the direct intake of fuengreek and fennel seeds and 2 tablespoon of each seed with water is good or not and direct intake should harm or not.. And how many times I’ve to take and how many days.
It’s not going to harm you, it’s good.
Take it once a day, in the morning.
My question is do we have to take both fennel and and fengreek seeds ? Or only one out of them.
And if both , mix them together and have it or one at a time?
You need to take both of them, take them one at a time.
Hi Sahar : clear the amount for me please , Of how much of each ingredients and by “ teaspoon ,, or “ tablespoon u didn’t clarify this amount From beginning .
Teaspoons.
Which type of process is better for Brest enhancement?? 1. fennel pills 2. Grind Nd eat the fennel seeds.
If we use fennel seeds any side effects is occur ?
Fennel pills are very convenient and it’s what I like to use nowadays.
If we don’t want to use the capsules, can we powder fennel and fenugreek seperately and consume? Taking 2 tablespoons fennel powder and 3 tablespoons fenugreek powder? If the quantity is fine, how many times a day do u suggest
Yes Ananaya, you can do it.
Once a day, morning preferably.
Did it work
Is it 2 teaspoons of fennel and 3 teaspoons of fenugreek. I see people are saying tablespoons. I would just like to know if it is teaspoon or tablespoon
Do I have to take them for life? I don’t want to stop taking them and go back to my previous size
No, once you get the results you want, you can slow things down.
Hi I want to know taking it before breakfast can I still mix both the powder with olive oil and massage it to my breast before bed for a fast results or is not allowed. Thax
Yes, sounds good to me. You can do it.
Hello,
Are fenugreek capsules as effective as the seed?
Because I ordered from amazon fenugreek natures way thinking it was seeds, but it came in capsules. I have been drinking almond milk every morning and night and in the afternoons I have been drinking fennel tea since over two weeks before I started the capsules in June 9. The servings recommended for the capsules are 2 capsules 2-3 times a day so I have been taking two in the morning two before lunch and one at night. I have only seen 1 inch of growth since I started.
Wow this sounds like a dream
Thank you so much for passing your knowledge and I desperately hope it works.
I don’t like taking pills as it’s hard to swallow.
I can ground my own fennel and fenugreek though.
Was is it:
2 Tablespoons of Fennel
And
3 Tablespoons of Fenugreek ?
Or did I get mixed up there.
Also… i think you said, take both of them in the morning after/ with breakfast. Is that correct?
You’re so welcome.
Please, refer to my free report for the correct dosage.
Can i take boiled fennel water empty stomach for enlargement… Will dis work
Hi Sahar, thank you for the knowledge shared. Please I want to know between fenugreek and fennel capsules and taking grounded seeds which one is more effective? My breasts are very small and saggy I need to increase my breast size and gain fairness. Should I take both capsules and grounded seeds together for faster result and how long should I take before I see effect?
Hello,
Yes, it’s a whole process, you need to use all the formula to get rapid growth.
Can we mix fennel powder in water and drink?will that be okay?
2. Can we eat fennel seeds?
Yes, you can.
Only when ground.
Actually I did not understand, if you don’t mind can you please guide me with the procedure of intake of these?
What didn’t you understand? I can explain it to you.
I mean I don’t have Fenugreek and fennel capsules so, instead can I consume 2tbsp of Fenugreek and 3tbsp of fennel seeds?
And please guide me with the timings I mean when to take these two.
I mean I don’t have Fenugreek and fennel capsules so, instead can I consume 2tbsp of Fenugreek and 3tbsp of fennel seeds?
And please guide me with the timings I mean when to take these two.
And one last..do we need to ground the Fenugreek seeds too and consume?
Please tell me if this formula gives me wiight loss as well..that I don’t need actually… because I’m already under weight…
No, only weight gain.
Hello,
Can you please recommend which Fennel capsules and Fenugreek we should purchase ?
Hi,
I use Nature’s Way, it’s the best in my opinion.
Hi, I just want to know that if this formula will work only on breast or it will also effects on other parts of body. means, If I use this formula will it put fat on my other body parts? because I do not want fat on my other body parts. Plz reply.
Hello,
No, as long as you only massage your breast. you have nothing to worry about.
Can I just take fennel? I don’t want to smell like maple syrup when taking fenugreek. Do you also have an idea about taking pueraria mirifica, saw palmetto and wild yam?
Hello Kris,
No, you need the other herbs.
These herbs are fantastic, try to use them as well.
Hello, can I use the fenugreek powder instead of grinding the seeds myself?
Yes, of course.
I cannot find fennel capsules but I got a whole lot of fennel seeds.
What is the quantitiy of ground seeds compared to the 5 caspules you recommended in the post?
Thank you
Hello,
I’ve struggled with my self-image due to my tiny cup-size (not even an A-cup) in my mid-twenties. I feel like I’m seeing a 13-year-old in the mirror, and I can’t help but notice that every single man in my life has left me on the sidelines for a female with abundant cleavage.
One thing I want to ask a doctor (or if you know) is if the progesterone cream my mother used on me when I was 11-15 may have stunted my breast development. She had a baby when I was 11, and since she was over 40, she supplemented with progesterone to prevent preterm delivery. She then developed an obsession with progesterone treatments and used the creams on me. When I started reaching my mid-teens and was concerned over my lack of breast development, she kept repeating “it’ll come.” It never did. Since she was far more developed at my age (mid-twenties), I’m wondering if the extra progesterone somehow screwed with my hormones during that delicate period and affected my breast and hip development.
I hate the idea of surgery because it would be fake, expensive, and I would feel ashamed in a new way. That’s why I’d love to try a natural method to simply instruct my body to build real, healthy breasts. I’m hoping these two will help!
Quick questions:
– I see you recommending “5 fennel pills,” but how many milligrams are in each pill?
-Are there any brands you recommend or extra ingredients to avoid?
– Is there a danger with taking fenugreek pills? Any specific reason not to?
Thank you!
Hi. Pls taking the fennel powder as tea,do I need to boil it? And for how many minutes? Then if I am to mix with olive oil and massage on my breasts,how long should I leave it on the breasts before I wash it out?
Leave it no more than 20 minutes.
Hi sahar..I hv lots of quires..pl tell me.
1_is it necessary to take Fenugreek with fennel instead of taking only fennel in water 2_ after having proper growth of breast can we stop taking fennel
3_ n yes for massage is it necessary to take coconut oil or mustard oil or olive oil instead other oils or vasaline
Hi,
Yes, you need to take both these herbs. Yes, you can stop after growth. No, these oils are not effective.
Hello Sahar, can your dosage for fenugreek seeds and fennel capsules be used by a breastfeeding mum andnfor how long?
Yes, it can be used, until you get the results you want.
Hi, I have spent a long time reading you wonderful website and am currently taking:
9 Fenugreek Capsules (3 after breakfast), 3 after lunch and 3 after evening dinner (not smelling any maple syrup smell, although I shower twice daily and use deodorant a lot)
2 Red Clover Capsules (after evening dinner)
5 Fennel capsules after breakfast
Is the above too much? I am worried I am taking too many capsules, but am having no side effects. I am noticing my breasts are becoming firmer and have been taking these for around three weeks now.
All capsules are Natures Way/Natures Garden (UK)
I am also using the homemade Fenugreek paste using Fenugreek powder mixed with Saw Palmetto powder (as per your receipt) and Coconut Oil and applying to my breasts in the evening for one hour. I just remove the paste after an hour and am not washing off my skin – should I be washing this off? Because I am using Coconut Oil, when I initially made the paste I kept in the fridge for three days before using it, but now I don’t keep in the fridge … is this correct? Many thanks.
Excellent!
You are doing great, keep up the good work.
Hi, I have a green juice in the morning every day. Can I add 2 teaspoons of ground fenugreek 3 teaspoons of ground fennel seed to my juice?
Thanks!
Yes, but do not use a lot of fennel, only one teaspoon max.
Hi Sahar please tell me that can i take both grounded seeds mixed in hot milk in morning? Is it effective? And if i take funel seed water for this purposes then that will be good for this purpose?
Hello,
Never mix it with milk, and no, fennel without fenugreek is not that powerful.
Hi I have started your breast plan I have 3 fenugreek capsules a day plus 3 teaspoons of fennel powder in water every morning will this give me more results i also have a handful of walnuts everyday ,bread peanut butter & other carbs i was a 14B im now a 14C if I continue this will I succeed to my goal goal of being a size 14D & if so will I have to keep taking the same amount thank you so much
Hello Sahar
I do not have the capsules for both rather in a powder form what is the right amount to consume both powder everyday and also can I combine one or both with soy milk
Hi, I have started with fenugreek first for about 2 weeks until I got the fennel capsules delivered, and now I’m about 2 weeks and a half on both 5 capsules fenugreek 1,220 mg before bf and 5 capsules fennel 480 mg after bf. I didn’t notice much difference. When should I start feeling it and what else should I do or don’t do to help on this?
Hi, where do you buy the fennel capsules from and what is the name of the brand you use?
I started using fenugreek but it really made me smell unpleasant. If I only take fennel seeds would it not help at all?
I noticed enlarged breast due to eating fennel regularly. Thought I was eating for other issue but when I noticed breast size, I wanted to read if fennel is the reason . For anyone wanting to try it plz do I hope it works for u too. I soaked 1 heap teaspoon of fennel seeds in a glass of water in the morning and drank it before bed and ate the swollen fennel’s I loved the taste of it . Although I am experiencing acid reflex Nowadays but I’m not sure if fennel is the reason. Thanks
how much fennel seeds to eat
It’s in the article Lavi.
Hi,
You don’t really specify the amounts. How many in tsp or tbsp? You say 5 capsules of fennel seeds but what is dosage for ground fennel?
Also in some articles you say tbsp and some you say tsp of fenugreek? What it is ?
Hi Levi,
I thought I did! Ooooops!
Anyway, two teaspoons for this method, of course, if you decide to use other methods, things will vary, depending if you use other herbs beside fennel seeds.
Hi ,sahar
I just started Fenugreek and fennel pwd.any issue about my hormones?
Hi,
Do you have any medical issues?
Hi Sahar
I have been taking 1/2 TSP of ground fenugreek seeds and I’ve been getting light headed and dizzy. I got stomach pains and my period wasn’t delayed for 3 weeks!
Then I lowered it to 1/4 tsp but still get dizzy and lightheaded. I stopped taking it for now and I’m fine but I want to eat bigger Breasts. I’m an A cup.
Is this safe to consume ?
I have no health conditions. Not taking any pills. No hormone issues. No thyroid issue. No blood sugar problems. No allergy to anything. What’s the problem?
My period Was delayed by 3 weeks *
Hey! Loved you post, looks like you’ve wrote in in excitement of your amazing result!!
My question is I’m afraid to take pills so can i take fenugreek seeds and fennel seeds just like that?? If yes, then how many spoons?? Thanks alot please answer me please please
Hi,
Thank you!
Start with six teaspoon ground fenugreek seeds a day and half a teaspoon ground fennel. This should give you a boost start.
6 teaspoons?? Wasn’t it suppose to be 2 teaspoons as stated in your articles ? Please specify the measurements
Hi Sahar,
Why six tsp ? You say 2 tsp a day in your other post.
How many tsp is safest to consume ?
Also In how many days after taking these seeds pills you grew your breast?
About 30 days.
Sahar, how many teaspoons of fenugreek to see results??
Sometimes you say 2 tsp, 2 tablespoon or 6 teaspoons.
What is the amount for optional results?
Hi Sahar, thank you for sharing your experience and results! I am looking to buy fennel powder and fenugreek powder for easy consumption. You mentioned to take both on a daily basis. If I miss 1 or 2 days, would that affect the growth of my breasts? If I do this 5 days out of the week, would it be less effective?
Hello,
No, it won’t mess up your routine, however, the more you stick to it, the better for getting faster results.
hi sahar, how many tsp or tbsp of ground fenugreek?
what is the safest amount to consume?
Hi, I’m a Male (Transgender) and I loved the post on the breast growth. Currently I’m at 34 A (barely) and It is my dream to get 34 DD. I have question, Can I use Fenugreek Dried Leaves instead of Fenugreek Seeds. Are they as good as seeds ? I’m not sure where I can find Fenugreek Seeds.
Hi Smith,
I have tried them, not very effective, the ground seeds are much better from my experience.
Hi Sahar,
For how long you took Fenugreek seeds for the desired breast result (is it from 34 AA to 34 DD ?)
Hi Sahar,
Can you take ground fenugreek alone ( no saw palmetto) and see an increase in breast growth ?
How many tsp of ground fenugreek for optimal result ?
You have a very informative post on the subject. I’m a male looking to grow a pair. Thank you for the instructions, I’ve been trying 2 Fenugreek caps, 2 pueraria mirifica caps, 2 Fennel caps and 1 saw palmeto nightly for a couple weeks without any results and after reading what you have to say I understand why. 👍